“hold off, So is this a Date?” Podcast Episode 206: Celebrity Crushes | Autostraddle
It absolutely was my personal aunt’s look to pick the movie at Blockbuster and she’d picked A Walk to consider . “Sorry. This might be a lady film,” my personal mommy warned. As soon as we had gotten home and viewed it children, I didn’t program my personal rips. Or my personal desire. I didn’t acknowledge that We enjoyed the film and, even more important, cherished the lead. The season was 2002 and between Mandy Moore within motion picture and Avril Lavigne issuing her first record album, I’d discovered both different celeb crushes that would haunt with the rest of my childhood.
Star crushes suggest even more to queer people than they actually do to straight individuals. They can be our very own very first expressions of queer need or the very first expressions of sex envy. They could be a safe place to test urges that are not prepared the real-world.
For this reason recently we’re chatting with writer and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola everything about star crushes. We discuss just how star thirsting seems comprehensive to Jordan as a panromantic gray asexual individual. We talk about the way I believe almost all of my personal star crushes are variety of obtainable. And, of course, we talk about the well-known more mature females on Christina’s liquid container.
But 1st! Christina quizzes me personally on an interest i understand small about — lesbian love books
PROGRAM NOTES
+ The real relationship novels referenced in our online game had been: The X Element , Splitting Character , Resort Queens , Payback’s a Witch , and The Brutal Truth .
+ My personal research for 2 enthusiasts revealing a wall:
+ Christina’s reference for just two fans revealing a wall:
+ listed below are most of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:
A Simple Podcast
The Complete Film Podcast
Aughtsterion
Catastrophe Women
Feeling Noticed
+ My well-known Euphoria recaps .
+ If at all like me, you really have no clue who Lindsay Shookus is actually, here is a timeline of the woman relationship with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.
+ This is very daring of me, because I don’t remember every little thing we typed on my Tumblr, but here is a link to my Nicole Kidman task .
+ The Angelina Jolie Rolling Rock address .
+ an indication to watch P-Valley and also to read Natalie’s protection .
EPISODE
Jordan: Practically everytime Jennifer Connelly’s face jumped upon display screen, every time i simply moved, “Oh, Jesus.”
Christina: (laughs)
Drew: (laughs)
Jordan: Like, audibly. We, like, gasped and “Oh, God,” like every drilling time.
[theme track performs]
Drew: Hi, I’m Drew.
Christina: And That I’m Christina.
Drew: And welcome to Hold Off, Is This A Night Out Together?.
Christina: You are aware, Wait, Is it a romantic date? is an Autostraddle podcast wherein we constantly forget about who states what, no matter what very long we’ve taped. Uh, i do believe which is in fact truly beautiful. And my earphones only fell next to my head. Very.
Drew: So a substantial s—, powerful beginning.
Christina: A powerful start. But largely, it is a podcast about dating and, like, finding out what matchmaking is actually of course we understand simple tips to get it done, similar to we figure out basically know how to keep my own personal earphones to my damn head.
Drew: Which is fantastic. Um, i’m Drew Gregory. I am (laughs) I am, uh… Or do you realy… But do you desire us to stay on that longer? I’m acquiring seems.
Christina: No, I’m only home…
Drew: (laughs)
Christina: …on myself personally.
Drew: Great.
Christina: Exciting if you chat, i do believe. (laughs)
Drew: Right. Um, uh, my name is Drew Gregory. I’m a filmmaker and a writer for Autostraddle. I am a queer trans lady and. Those are identity labels that We have. Christina?
Christina: Yes, absolutely. I Am Christina Tucker. I am additionally an author at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And honestly, this month i have really and truly just been like a girl about community. I really just already been like—
Drew: Mm.
Christina: —woman as a whole, generally in several—
Drew: Ooh.
Christina: —beaches, uh, for the Jersey Shore.
Drew: You probably have actually.
Christina: But still feeling very at-large and unique in a fashion that now we clearly think exhausted by.
Drew: Certain.
Christina: I am Ebony and homosexual, and that rocks for me.
Drew: I love that. (laughs)
Christina: Cool. I’m not sure why i am therefore strange nowadays. I, like, don’t know which i will be. What’s happening?
Drew: It is ok. We are gonna remain goin’.
Christina: What I do have, however, Drew, is a game title.
Drew: Mm-hmm. Thank God.
Christina: And That video game I’m evaluating your knowledge of something I know you do not have a lot of information about, that will be—
Drew: Oh God.
Christina: –fun. Um, it is a… its known as… Really don’t have a name because of it. We perhaps should’ve looked at a reputation. But fundamentally, I’ll give you three lesbian love titles, and you are heading—
Drew: Ooh.
Christina: —to have to tell me do you know the actual ones of this three.
Drew: Okay.
Christina: Two i’ve produced, one is actual. And you’re gonna must choose the real one and tell me what you think it is more about.
Drew: Great. Okay.
Christina: Are you ready?
Drew: I’m. What an excellent online game.
Christina: Okay.
Drew: (laughs)
Christina: Here we get. The very first three. The X Ingredient , The It Element , and The Truth people .
Drew: Huh. its amusing, ’cause you might think that The X Ingredient would in fact end up being The X Factor combined with The It Element , but—
Christina: Sure.
Drew: We wanna say… i simply… Oh, I’m hoping I’m not unintentionally insulting you, but I believe like The X Element may be the clunkiest, and so you wouldn’t came up with that. It has to be genuine.
Christina: You will be proper. (laughs)
Drew: Yes.
Christina: (laughs)
Drew: Wow, I Am therefore pleased.
Christina: What do you think The X Element means?
Drew: Um, In my opinion it really is about two lesbians who will be exes and finish for a passing fancy real life cooking reveal that’s type of like Chopped , but, like, somewhere between Chopped and Fantastic British Baking Show . Like, it is on for a while but it has sort of sun and rain of Chopped . Um, and they’re exes and it… It really is sort of like a… I’m not sure whether it would count as an enemies to enthusiasts simply because they happened to be lovers at one point, but it’s like an exes to straight back with each other.
Christina: Everyone loves that. In addition like that by asking to inform me personally what you think these publications are about, I simply made you create relationship plots.
Drew: I really like it.
Christina: That is truly fun. Uh, unfortuitously The X Ingredient is really, uh, about an assistant whom rests together with her boss. So when we began reading it last week on beach, I mentioned, “that is positively a Devil Wears Prada fanfic that features changed into a proper book.” Once I show I check the Devil Wears Prada fanfic, we certain have. To ensure’s a journey.
Drew: Wait, but why is it known as The X Element ?
Christina: Really, into the initial fanfic, the X ingredient ended up being… there was clearly some type of reason that Miranda had all of the woman personnel, uh, consume the lady out to orgasm. Um.
Drew: Wow.
Christina: Can’t truly keep in mind exactly what the, the story, the backstory ,was thereon, um, in the newest one, in this actual published adaptation i ought to say, uh, the X component I guess is actually, I don’t know, simply, like, that her associate’s hot and she is similar, “Oh, Im gay today and I also wanna make love together with her.” Like, I’m not sure. The X component is being hot.
Drew: Suitable for me personally. Okay.
Christina: There you decide to go.
Drew: Round two.
Christina: Round two. Broken Hearts Club …
Drew: Uh-huh.
Christina: … Busting Character , Choosing Broke .
Drew: Ooh, those appear to be they could be genuine. I absolutely want it to be Breaking Personality , but In my opinion Reduced Hearts Club is actually real.
Christina: Unfortunately, Reduced Hearts Club is not genuine. And fortunate for your family, Splitting Personality is actually actual.
Drew: Oh my Jesus, i will’ve merely gone using my instinct.
Christina: Opt for your gut, babe.
Drew: Busting Character . Okay, it’s about sort of just like the female Daniel Day-Lewis, like a lady star whom requires the woman approach acting extremely honestly, and she develops a relationship with her co-star. But the woman co-star, it really is unknown both for her co-star and for the actor in the event that co-star is within love with her or in really love along with her character. And hijinks ensue.
Christina: Genuinely, which is not remote through the real storyline of Splitting Personality , which is in fact about two performers, person who is, uh, already been labeled as a bitch it is certainly not, it is only becoming, uh, badmouthed by the woman showrunner because she actually is on like a Gray’s Anatomy kind medical tv show—
Drew: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Christina: —that has actually eliminated from the rails. The woman characteris the bitch.
Drew: Mm-hmm.
Christina: And, uh, her brand new co-star Summer — that’s right, the woman name is Summer — is quite charming and wonderful. And due to extremely bonkers storyline reasons, they must have a fake connection. But they’re both homosexual so…
Drew: So nothing occurs. They don’t really develop any feelings.
Christina: Yeah, so they you should not… Yeah, absolutely nothing.
Drew: They never get together. No.
Christina: Nothing occurs. They never explore it and they do not have gender.
Drew: Mm-hmm.
Christina: Yep, that’s just what occurs.
Drew: Often that’s the way it goes.
Christina: All right, your following three. Hotel Queens , News Moguls , or Restaurant Monarchs .
Drew: Okay, I Am gonna follow my instinct and go with the one that I want to be real—
Christina: Okay.
Drew: —and wish that that is real. Resort Queens .
Christina: Resort Queens is actual.
Drew: Wow, I’m killing it. (laughs)
Christina: You are eliminating this. For someone who will perhaps not review a huge amount of lesbian love, uh, it’s in your blood, babe.
Drew: Okay, I’m going to now state the plot that I hope really, though i am pretty sure based on my knowledge of posting industry this isn’t the truth. But i would like it to be about two participants on a show comparable to, want, Drag Race ’cause you aren’t truly likely to, like, be in both’s areas but, you are sure that, they stay-in a hotel through the entire entire filming for the show. So they really develop, like, sort of remarkable event that for some time can’t be consummated, but their areas are near to both so that they, like, knock on the wall surface between all of them and then when they’re filming, there is just like the stress and it’s really… And yeah, which is, that is what i would like Hotel Queens to-be about.
Christina: That appears quite hot. Um, that’s not exactly what Hotel Queens is focused on. It’s just about a woman exactly who runs places and, uh, another woman whom works a competing hotel.
Drew: Sure, sure.
Christina: Which works for a contending resort chain as well as, uh—
Drew: Sure, sure, positive.
Christina: —quite practically are resort queens.
Drew: Sure, sure.
Christina: But I love that power. I love the knocking on the… extremely, uh, hit 3 x regarding the roof if you want myself fuel, that I fancy.
Drew: I found myself referencing Sunny Star , and I like every, Everyone loves our very own various cultural factors, you are sure that.
Christina: I love the minds.
Drew: Yeah.
Christina: I believe brains are incredibly gorgeous.
Drew: Yeah.
Christina: Okay, Paid-in haven .
Drew: Ooh.
Christina: The Repayment Arrange .
Drew: Ooh.
Christina: Payback’s a Witch .
Drew: Oh, Payback’s a Witch noise fun. I’m going with Payback’s a Witch .
Christina: Payback’s a Witch . And it’s really fun ’cause truly a proper publication.
Drew: Cool.
Christina: Tell me what you think Payback’s a Witch is all about.
Drew: Okay, I Managed To Get it.
Christina: Okay.
Drew: So a new gay witch is actually having difficulties in order to make lease during the early months associated with pandemic.
Christina: (laughs)
Drew: As well as the landlord is much like, “No, you must nonetheless give cash.” And she’s want, “But have a look, like, all these… You are sure that, like, you can’t evict me,” and all of these various things and like, “you will want to give me personally a break,” and “It really is a pandemic.” In addition to property owner’s love, “No, i am a landlord. I hate you.”
And therefore subsequently she’s like… She goes, “No, I’m a witch,” so next she starts tormenting the landlord. Really Love story is not using the property owner, perhaps not an enemies-to-lovers situation because—
Christina: ‘Cause landlords tend to be poor. Yes. (laughs)
Drew: But in fact she finds out that the woman next-door neighbor is a witch and a lesbian, so that they torment the landlord with each other and belong love along the way. It type of features like a Roald Dahl power, like The Twits . Or Great Mr. Fox . Like, there’s not actually, like… there is not lots of conflict as soon as preliminary conflict happens. Like, the pair of them merely are just like, “We’re both witches. We are going to torment this person exactly who deserves to be tormented.” After which obtained sex.
Christina: That’s actually really attractive. Uh, Payback’s a Witch is all about, instead, a lady who’s, you thought it, a witch exactly who comes back to her hometown in which it is the only place that she will carry out magic—
Drew: Ooh.
Christina: —because absolutely like a secret pond. She has been without forces.
Drew: Fun. Ooh.
Christina: Um, and she fulfills a, a girl she had a crush in twelfth grade. Uh, there is like an entire a long time, like, puzzle world-building thing aided by the area plus the individuals that are running the town. They gather. It’s very sweet. Fun book, Payback’s a Witch .
Drew: Seriously, of the ones to date, that is the one i might many want to look over.
Christina: Payback’s a Witch is quite enjoyable. Uh, there is a follow up to that particular book, however it is unfortunately about straight people. So.
Drew: Weird.
Christina: You winnings some, you drop some. All right, here is our final one. Honesty and Second Opportunities , Whenever Facts Joins Fiction —
Drew: Ooh.
Christina: —or The Brutal Facts .
Drew: Ooh. I’m gonna pick Whenever Truth Joins Fiction .
Christina: Mm, that’s unfortuitously from my brain alone. Uh, The Brutal Facts , nevertheless…
Drew: The good thing is that The Brutal Reality and When Reality Meets Fiction , In My Opinion both are comparable thing which is—
Christina: Yeah, they might be.
Drew: —novel-length fanfiction of The Morning Show and of Bradley Jackson and her truth-telling. But I imagine when it was actually published, for copyright laws factors they did must transform some details. So her name’s maybe not Bradley Jackson anymore, but it is likewise plotted.
Christina: In Fact It Is an embarrassment because Bradley Jackson is actually leading on the list of biggest fictional character names ever set to paper, um, despite how—
Drew: Absolutely.
Christina: —ridiculous every thing about any of it is. But congratulations thereon Emmy nom, Reese.
Drew: (laughs)
Christina: (laughs) The Brutal Truth is focused on a news mogul who gets control a having difficulties report and comes crazy about the crime journalist, who writes—
Drew: Ooh.
Christina: —at the nighttime. Uh, they will have a very sweet coming together. The news mogul is undoubtedly extremely mean and like twenty years more than the woman is. It is incredible stuff.
Drew: Yes.
Christina: And that I will, because we care much for the audience, demonstrably feature links to all or any of the real guides in tv show notes.
Drew: Incredible.
Christina: Plus the rest of all of them, they will certainly go-back into my personal head where they belong. Also, discovering brands of books… Like I can come up with plots for a romance books all day long. Titles is actually, like, in fact shockingly challenging.
Drew: Yeah, you probably did good.
Christina: Thanks. I just needed that compliment.
Drew: (laughs)
Christina: All of our really special guest is regarded as the best individuals thirst about superstars with. Therefore special guest, the trend is to present your self therefore we can get into celeb crush talk?
Jordan: Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. Truly a— And Drew. Hello. We, I am Jordan Crucchiola. Of course you hear any one of my podcasts, you might have begun aided by the Easy Podcast which I performed with Christina. And as we stated once I logged onto this talk, the very last time we were on a pod collectively had been whenever we had been interviewing Blake vibrant.
Christina: And, as I recall, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—
Jordan: Yeah.
Christina: —about wow, Blake Livelyis just in a little Zoom corner.
Jordan: (laughs)
Drew: (laughs)
Christina: There she actually is. She actually is had gotten really hair. What exactly is going on? She’s talkin’ to you for such a long time.
Jordan: Opt for Jesus, Blake. Thanks a lot.
Christina: It absolutely was untamed instances. Crazy times.
Jordan: (laughs)
Drew: Do you want to say a little bit more about who you really are?
Jordan: Sure, sure. Um, we, I wish to claim that i’m somebody who enjoys Drew Gregory’s what I give consideration to is conclusive Euphoria recaps.
Christina: (laughs)
Drew: Wow. thanks.
Jordan: There clearly was certain one where, um… Due to the fact tv series makes myself very very… Hunter Schafer is, uh, an angel from Jesus.
Christina: Yeah.
Jordan: Additionally the tv show tends to make myself exceedingly unpleasant in the unmarried brain-trust inventor, executor, music producer, movie director, writer, gazes upon Hunter.
Christina: Mm-hmm.
Drew: Yeah.